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[12:02] llIIlIlll> rofl if i host blue i will most likely do the standard template, even though i frequently dont
[12:02] Taity-mini in
[12:02] llIIlIlll> but pp has become that way
[12:02] llIIlIlll> this is exactly why
[12:02] llIIlIlll> craters isnt played
[12:02] Meph> people want to win
[12:02] Meph> that's why
[12:02] llIIlIlll> because people 'dont know how to build efficiently' on craters
[12:02] llIIlIlll> place is a joke rofl
[12:03] Meph> i doubt it's about building
[12:03] Obscura_OP> map?
[12:03] Meph> any
[12:03] [SW]Babo in
[12:03] Taity-mini> Meph: http://beta.speedtest.net/result/6438285818.png - that's minibot
[12:03] llIIlIlll> it is to some extent.. the rest is because everyones narrow now
[12:03] Right_nut_OP> i dont think its about building
[12:03] Right_nut_OP> on craters
[12:03] llIIlIlll> plays only tom and tgw
[12:03] Meph> holy
[12:03] Right_nut_OP> craters has like most building ways
[12:03] Meph> looks like a server at a university :D
[12:03] llIIlIlll> nici
[12:03] Right_nut_OP> its just people dont like maps that are good
[12:03] Right_nut_OP> or dont want to think
[12:03] Meph> good job Taity-mini !
[12:03] llIIlIlll> i pride myself on the way i can just randomly place huts.. not as much as keith though
[12:04] llIIlIlll> thats why its interesting to watch his stream
[12:04] Spinnifix> idm map and etams
[12:04] Right_nut_OP> ye but like meph said its occupying ur space efficiently
[12:04] llIIlIlll> he might even have like 15 huts on pp as yellow
[12:04] Right_nut_OP> thats what means "building properly"
[12:04] llIIlIlll> because of having 3 fw huts in his actual base
[12:04] Meph> and that's interesting ? to see someone waste his space with 15 huts where 28 are possible ?
[12:04] [SW]Babo> wot are we on taitys server now?
[12:04] Right_nut_OP> its all relative tho but theres a best way ofc
[12:04] llIIlIlll> yes
[12:04] llIIlIlll> because its not banal
[12:04] Meph> lol.
[12:04] Right_nut_OP> watching keith gets boring dude
[12:04] llIIlIlll> and to see them win after
[12:04] Right_nut_OP> lo
[12:04] llIIlIlll> thats interesting
[12:04] Meph> thing is he wont win
[12:05] llIIlIlll> he does
[12:05] Meph> nor will anyone in a balanced game with 13 huts less than possible
[12:05] Taity-mini> alex helped me setup the server back in 2015 on here: https://www.vultr.com/
[12:05] llIIlIlll> he has
[12:05] Right_nut_OP> if he does win
[12:05] llIIlIlll> and many others have
[12:05] Right_nut_OP> it depends on his opponent
[12:05] llIIlIlll> actually no, not many others. everyones too busy following the template rofl
[12:05] Right_nut_OP> he can just play a wildman and biuild 10 huts
[12:05] Meph> you don't want to handicap yourself on purpose against someone good
[12:05] Meph> he has never done it against me and still lost every single game
[12:05] llIIlIlll> i didnt want to go down this path but here goes
[12:05] llIIlIlll> nici
[12:05] llIIlIlll> keith won against you on face off that way
[12:06] llIIlIlll> or have you forgotten?
[12:06] Meph> lol.
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> ?
[12:06] Meph> LOOOL.
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> he won a game but lost the tourney
[12:06] [SW]Babo> thx Taity-mini
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> so i dont even care
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> lol
[12:06] [SW]Babo> youre our saviour
[12:06] Spinnifix> obsi
[12:06] Spinnifix> auf ein gutes
[12:06] llIIlIlll> my point thus stands, its not about whatever it is you said earlier
[12:06] Spinnifix> !
[12:06] llIIlIlll> about vs good players
[12:06] Obscura_OP> !
[12:06] llIIlIlll> about the efficiency and all that
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> keith won because its fo and also
[12:06] Meph> thing is
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> it was 4 years ago
[12:06] llIIlIlll> im just against the guide
[12:06] Taity-mini out
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> keith was better 4 years ago, i was worse
[12:06] Meph> everyone can win on face off
[12:06] Meph> it requires no skill
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> 5*
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> ^
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> ^^^
[12:06] Right_nut_OP> lol
[12:07] llIIlIlll> point taken, but i still believe pop doesnt need to get more boring than atm
[12:07] Meph> why no show new people how to build efficiently ?
[12:07] Taity-mini in
[12:07] Meph> they can still decide to adapt it to their own style
[12:07] llIIlIlll> its fucken pointless
[12:07] Right_nut_OP> ra its not like i even looked at keiths base when he beat me
[12:07] llIIlIlll> why
[12:07] Right_nut_OP> but u talking about a game that happened 1.5k days ago
[12:07] Meph> i also expand on pp as red with tower at side, though i have no one seen do it before me
[12:07] Right_nut_OP> is priceless
[12:07] Meph> but i was told ragnj and shit were doing it
[12:08] Meph> you still gotta maintain your own style to be good, copying anyone wont help you succeed
[12:08] Right_nut_OP> ye a lot of people do that
[12:08] Right_nut_OP> but not nowadays except you
[12:08] Right_nut_OP> and some others
[12:08] Right_nut_OP> rarely
[12:08] [SW]Babo> bella sometimes does that
[12:08] Right_nut_OP> ra its fun to watch a game where every little detail matters
[12:08] llIIlIlll> http://prntscr.com/ft4tx6
[12:08] llIIlIlll> why is inca blocked?
[12:08] Right_nut_OP> not fun to watch keith build 10 huts then forget to build for 5 mins
[12:09] llIIlIlll> nici calm the fuck down
[12:09] Right_nut_OP> ?
[12:09] llIIlIlll> im not making a personal attack on you
[12:09] Right_nut_OP> i am calm as fuck lol
[12:09] [SW]Babo> ffs 2 sec too late
[12:09] [SW]Babo> :/
[12:09] llIIlIlll> i only used that game as a random example that came up
[12:09] Right_nut_OP> imo its wrong what you said
[12:09] llIIlIlll> since you were talking about how
[12:09] llIIlIlll> nobody does that, nobody would, especially against good players, and wouldnt win
[12:09] llIIlIlll> or was it meph who was on about that
[12:09] Spinnifix> dw
[12:09] Spinnifix> il lstrema
[12:09] Right_nut_OP> keiths the worst example u could have used
[12:09] Right_nut_OP> tbh
[12:10] llIIlIlll> im only making my point, building templates are unnecessary
[12:10] Spinnifix> twitch.tv/sphynx_poptb
[12:10] Spinnifix> STREMAING
[12:10] llIIlIlll> someone comes up with one in their spare time
[12:10] Spinnifix> OVBSCUEA + SPIN VS GENKIDAMA + MEPH ON 4WAY
[12:10] Spinnifix> twitch.tv/sphynx_poptb
[12:10] llIIlIlll> as im sure tsu kayin etc did
[12:10] Spinnifix> STREAMING
[12:10] llIIlIlll> good for them
[12:10] Right_nut_OP> also good to fit most huts
[12:10] llIIlIlll> it doesnt have to be everyone else following it
[12:10] Right_nut_OP> =more pop
[12:10] Right_nut_OP> =faster
[12:10] llIIlIlll> yaaawn
[12:11] [SW]Babo> thx spin
[12:11] ArkTan in
[12:11] llIIlIlll> just place huts and watch them get built lol, dont delete the last 4 hut plans you made because of a mistake in hut placement and have every game be almost exactly the same is all i think
[12:11] pussypy> Any one want s to play ?
[12:11] Right_nut_OP> ra its all about being competitive
[12:12] [SW]Babo> [13:08] llIIlIlll> why is inca blocked?
[12:12] llIIlIlll> isnt there like a limit?
[12:12] [SW]Babo> he seems to be on the mobile version
[12:12] Right_nut_OP> you have a strat, you perform it in game
[12:12] llIIlIlll> i mean whats next
[12:12] Right_nut_OP> if you fail a bit of it
[12:12] [SW]Babo> so maybe hes testing some things?
[12:12] Right_nut_OP> your mood towards the game changes
[12:12] llIIlIlll> is there gonna be a certain order of charging spells?
[12:12] Right_nut_OP> when u start fucking up
[12:12] Right_nut_OP> u will most likely fuck up elsewhere, thats how it is
[12:12] Right_nut_OP> if u dont feel that, good for you
[12:12] Taity-mini out
[12:12] Right_nut_OP> i believe theres already a certain order of charging spells
[12:12] Right_nut_OP> at least on pp
[12:12] llIIlIlll> always light first no matter what, then 1 eq, then a lb to expand, then a torn to get that 1 tower that everyone as a certain colour makes, then eqs and train exactly 15 warriors, then fs, then..
[12:12] llIIlIlll> rofl thats sad
[12:13] Right_nut_OP> why light first
[12:13] llIIlIlll> ur asking why?
[12:13] Right_nut_OP> yes
[12:13] Right_nut_OP> why?
[12:13] llIIlIlll> humm... well I DONT KNOW maybe because everyone copies eachother
[12:13] llIIlIlll> starting with building wise
[12:13] llIIlIlll> its only gonna get worse
[12:13] llIIlIlll> games stagnant enough already
[12:13] Jerem112 out
[12:13] Right_nut_OP> that's what streams cause
[12:13] Right_nut_OP> they help copy
[12:13] llIIlIlll> and i thought it couldnt get worse
[12:13] Right_nut_OP> and also help players become better
[12:14] llIIlIlll> its a fucken travesty
[12:14] Right_nut_OP> nothing we can do
[12:14] llIIlIlll> well thats it for my saturday morning rant
[12:14] llIIlIlll> dont i feel better
[12:14] llIIlIlll> actually no, still pissed off
[12:14] Right_nut_OP> players can copy but if they dont put some logic behind their actions
[12:14] Jerem112 in
[12:14] Right_nut_OP> it will be pointless
[12:14] Right_nut_OP> everything they did
[12:14] llIIlIlll> nici
[12:14] llIIlIlll> thats what
[12:15] llIIlIlll> ive been saying this whole time
[12:15] llIIlIlll> wait
[12:15] Right_nut_OP> well, thats logical
[12:15] Right_nut_OP> but the building doesnt really make a difference
[12:15] Right_nut_OP> as its just building
[12:15] Right_nut_OP> there is no macro part involved
[12:15] Right_nut_OP> the micro is all the same
[12:15] Right_nut_OP> but the macro wins u games and makes the difference, always